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Dominik Grauert dominik at grauert.net
Mi Jan 29 17:42:26 CET 2014


Hallo Leute! Hier für euch zur Info: Ich habe an Hans folgende Mitteilung geschickt. 

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> Von: "Dominik" 
> An: "Hans te Maarssen Yogitype"
> Betreff: AW: Neo 2.0 Layout möglich?  
> 
> Hello Hans,
>  
> Thank you a lot for your work. I did a few corrections to your design. They are attached.
>  
> It's great to see in your PDF that both inlays are symetric. That's great!
> I can turn them around than, when I succeded to reorder the keys by software or finaly could change the firmware.
>  
> >>> So, could you please print the same desing on the back side, but all key's blank (no letters inside)? Thanks a lot!
>  
>  
> Layout
> First of all, it seems to me you took your input for your keyboard from this website: http://www.grahl.ch/content/neo-layout-20
> Well, as I told you before: That's not the "official" Neo 2 design. And in addition, it's wrong (and old from  2007)!!!
>  - There is NO "Mod 5" key in Neo 2
>  - There is NO "Alt Gr" key in Neo 2
>  - A lot of important chars are missing in that layout
>  
> I sent to you the page, with the "official" layout, but it's even easyer for you: Have you still tryed to install the Neo 2 driver? It's an Windows executable and you don't need admin rights. Than you just have to attach your YogiType to your pc and type every letter in every key field on your graphic. It's simple!
>  
> Driver is here: http://neo-layout.org/neo20.exe (for Mac or Linux please visit the Wiki)
> Please think about that Neo is having 6 layers! In the wrong old and obsolete Grahl design there are only two layers visible.
> This is the actual and "official" layout: http://wiki.neo-layout.org/browser/A-REFERENZ-A/neo20.txt?format=raw
> Have an inspiration how it looks here: http://neo-layout.org/grafik/druckvorlage/neo-druckvorlage.png or here: http://neo-layout.org/grafik/aufsteller/neo20-aufsteller.pdf
> For some chars you'll need the right True Type Font. I sent it to you in a mail before, but just in case, you can donwload it here: http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/
>  
>  
> Yogi Type Firmware
> We discussed about a Yogi Type firmware change. You told me you wanted to ask your taiwanese supplyers to make the key matrix "editable" either for you, me, the Neo community or even everyone.
>  
> Why that? - Well, your Yogi Type has (when using the standard Neo2 driver and actual firmware) some disadvantages:
> - the letter 'ß' is far more away than the more rare used "death key"
> - The Mod 4 and Mod 3 keys are no longer symetric on the keyboard
> - Mod 4 is left on the middle finger, but right hand even on the forefinger which is weird!
> - Mod 3 left is ok, but right handed on the key where you normally find the Windows key 
>  
> Your design you sent me to me now is (with my corrections) the design as it is if you attach the Yogi Type to a PC while using the standard Neo 2 driver (neo20.exe see above). Well, that's, ... hmmm, ok for the moment! But I think that we will have to make a better improved design soon. The community and I still worked out a good suggestion, that I sent to you.
>  
> The moment your taiwanese supplyers will allow you to change the "key tables" in the firmware or supporting a firmware update via USB, I strongly reccomend to do a improved version of the Yogi Type Neo 2 design.
>  
> Yogi Type means ergonomic for the user, as well as Neo 2.
> But with the actual firmware we'll have it unergonomic because of the 4 reasons I pointed out.
>  
> I'm confident that we'll find a solution to that challenge, soon.
>  
>  
> Greetings,
> Dominik
>  
> 
> Von: Hans te Maarssen Yogitype 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Januar 2014 11:29
> An: 'Dominik'
> Betreff: FW: Neo 2.0 Layout möglich? 
> 
> Hello Dominik,
>  
> Did you see my last email (as enclosed)?
>  
> Greetings,
>  
> Hans
>  
> Van: Hans te Maarssen Yogitype 
> Verzonden: maandag 27 januari 2014 23:27
> Aan: 'Dominik'
> CC: 'Andre Haverkort'
> Onderwerp: FW: Neo 2.0 Layout möglich?
>  
> Hallo Dominik,
>  
> Enclosed you will find the NEO 2 inlay, made in line with my proposal to make it as universal as possible.
>  
> Please feel free to make comments.
>  
> Depending your reaction we can sent a keyboard to you within the coming two days.
>  
> Kind regards,
>  
> Hans
>  
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